Useful video/guide thread
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This is one of the most informative DOTA videos I've caught in a bit:
(skip to 31 minutes for the biggest payoff, but it is very good in general).It is in principle a coaching session for a Dark Willow, which I doubt many of you are interested in on that basis, but 99% of the time is spent on very terse information on pulls, timings, movements, and pressure, of a kind extremely valuable to everyone.
Edit: OK, this is the best DOTA instruction video ever, and if you don't watch it I don't even know what you're doing playing the game:
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@vaette Dubu is insane yeah. One of the few dedicated support players at that high rank iirc
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Going to post this through on discord too, but with more commentary here: Jenkins with some real good points on mistakes at various positions. As a support I especially like the support ones:
- For position 5 not proactively getting things done on the map in the first 10ish minutes where you're actually strong.
- For position 4 picking and playing like you're a second position 5.
We have both happen in a lot of our games.
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Pos 5 one is super important - if your pos 1 is level 6 and enemy offlane + his 4 are level 4 still you can easily start killing them.
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On the one hand that's true, but the video also makes the equally important point: if you as a 5-pos is not getting something substantial done by 15 minutes (denying the offlane heavily, setting up a kill, etc.) you probably have missed the part of the game where you can do such things. So a proactive attitude, including getting ahead yourself, is another reason not to sit in lane getting nothing/little done.
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aite this video has made me realise I'm gonna need a breakdown of who the fuck is a viable 4 now because apparently my picks are hot garbage
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I also apparently play 4 wrong, usually picking a lane pusher as a 3 (so I have it that 3 pushes the hard lane, 4 causes fighting chaos, where the video has those reversed). Treant remains great though, I think the gameplan for it is that you buy a Meteor Hammer, and then you sit in the trees in the hard lane and keep hammering/grasping creep waves while being incredibly hard to catch.
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Jenkins calling out Riki as most broken in history. Imagine what kind of munchkin scrub you'd have to be to pick it currently
Tango should play Batrider btw.
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Finally fixed youtube embeds also.
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@vaette scrub riki pickers
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Except not really. Apprenticearb was complaining about Riki pickers the other day as well, and I said, and still maintain, that I struggle to remember a more fun hard carry being viable.
We've lost a few games against it, but tbqh at our tier the counter is usually pretty straightforward: make a suitable 5-man play so Riki doesn't get easy information/pick-offs. The ones we lose we basically spend the entire midgame with one hero dead, which is pretty much ideal smooth sailing for a Riki team.
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@vaette ye its super easy to counter i was so farmed and doing big damage yesterday but can still get locked down and die in a stun
